Animal ‘Charity’ Dirty Tricks Campaign Part 2


UPDATED 23 September 2013:  For latest news scroll to bottom of this blog.

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You will recall that we reported that NTDM, bloated by their triumphant FB vendetta against their critics, decided to launch a Twitter attack on Peter Egan @PeterEgan6 , a much respected public figure in the UK. Peter Egan is a tireless animal welfare activist and the ambassador for Animals Asia. Why did NTDM launch an attack on Peter Egan? Because he said that he did not support them. Animal ‘Charity’ Dirty Tricks Campaign

Many of us watched with open mouths as the numbers of twitter followers of  @notodogmeat shot up in less than 12 hours from 2k to 7k. Is it possible that they purchased a 5000 twitter followers package? Surely an animal charity wouldn’t misuse donations from their supporters in such a ridiculous fashion? Interesting to note that these thousands of new followers seemed to have nothing to do with animals in their profile. We certainly didn’t see them tweeting in support of NTDM.

NTDM, in a hissy fit, decided to carry their obnoxious campaign against their critics back to their Facebook page.

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Odin Campbell is/was a fake Facebook ID used to troll and frighten critics of NTDM. A very nasty persona indeed who uses his military background in the same threatening way as Mr H. the ‘NTDM campaign manager’ used his police background in FB comments.

Below are the other, now deleted, NTDM Facebook posts from yesterday. Perhaps the celebrated ‘pro bono’ unregistered ‘Barrister’ CEO of NTDM will need to dust off her law books.

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This kind of attack is commonly used by NTDM. They usually complain that they have been hacked or try to blame a nameless volunteer. Well their Twitter account must have been hacked at the same time? They obviously like the ‘ brown envelope’ reference too much to cover their tracks well enough.

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We have noticed recently that this well know FB infamous personality has been vigorously defending NTDM, seems he is friendly with Mr H the campaign manager for NTDM and owner of a Philippine rescue. Some friends an animal ‘charity’ is probably better off not having. Unless of course, you need to intimidate critics.

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On a final note the two women co-founders of NTDM are no slouches themselves when tweeting.

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Update September 22 2013

Just in….. NTDM defend their appalling ‘Facebook Page’ attack on Mr Peter Egan and their threat to set an ex SAS thug onto critics.

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As of the 22 September 2013, and following reactions to this post, the official Facebook Page of Notodogmeat has been disabled. Their twitter account was re-launched today with a thumping 2k loss of followers in spite of a package of 5k recently added . The closure of the FB page may be temporary for ‘house cleaning’ purposes?

CaptureNTDM TWITTERPAGE2 22092013Who are the Admin responsible for the infamous recent posts on the official Notodogmeat FB page? We are no closer to discovering the answer to that question. NTDM management seem uncertain themselves? The UK police are usually indifferent to social media threats of violence and stalking so we are not optimistic about the complaint lodged with them. We do know that this is the person who tweets for them.

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We do know that this person has been part of the management team since the beginning. Observers have believed that she and Ms Brown, with the campaign manager Mr H who posts periodically under his own name,  have admin roles on the official Facebook Page. This screen shot , of an interesting request to the Thailand NTDM Chapter, has just been posted on Twitter. NTDM headquarters requested that Sally is immediately appointed as joint admin and that the Thai Chapter place an order for T Shirts in order to be officially endorsed.

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Before giving your money to the ‘animal charities’ which proliferate the pages of Facebook, perhaps the question to ask yourselves is: would you buy a used car from these people?  Facebook is not in the least interested in monitoring their social media pages. Complaints to FB fall on deaf ears;  the reverse is true…complainants with small FB audiences often find themselves very much at the mercy of bigger Pages. The FB moderators seem to have an inexplicable agenda which has nothing to do with protecting the public from nefarious people who will stop at nothing to part us from our money.

Update 23 September 2013 NTDM re-activates their official Facebook Page.

DID SHE FALL ON HER SWORD OR WAS SHE STABBED IN THE BACK?

Notodogmeat have given up pretending that their FB Page was hacked. In a shocking statement this morning, their CEO is blamed for the threatening and defamatory posts made on their official Facebook Page. They report that she was intoxicated. The statement appears to have been made by somebody to whom English is a second language. There is reference to her Korean counterpart taking control. Interesting, we had no idea that there was a Korean counterpart in the management team of Notodogmeat. Equally interesting, is that they seem to be attempting to ‘sanitize’ their self proclaimed Campaign Manager Mr H by claiming that the CEO, Ms J de C, was the Campaign Manager. The good news is that they state they are no longer a Charity and will not in future ask for donations. There is no word yet on the merchandising side of the organization. For those without a Facebook account we will keep you posted.

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USA you may be pleased to know that Notodogmeat are still active on:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Notodogmeat-USA/148241555372243

where you will be able to donate or buy merchandise, if you are so inclined.

All Singing All Dancing Animal Charity Scam? Chapter 2


This new organisation hit the ground running in May 2013. It wants our financial support. We are entitled to ask questions. There is no regulatory body we can ask.

Doubts about the veracity of this new organisation grew when questions about their charitable status remained unanswered. Their goals were overly enthusiastic and their promises unrealistic.  In describing their charity,  information on their status was smothered in rhetoric. An ID number, purporting to be their charity number, was shown in the about section on Facebook and then deleted from the description. It reappeared some time later but as the number of  a UK limited liability company registration. We discovered that this number was for THE WORLD PROTECTION FOR DOGS AND CATS IN THE MEAT TRADE. This recently incorporated company is described as the ‘umbrella’ of NTDM. Donations made through PayPal go to this company.  This means that the company is registered for tax purposes and it protects the owners from liability.  The officers of the company are required to keep day-to-day financial records and to submit accounts for tax purposes annually. Providing they annually declare income and expenditure and duly submit all documents as required under UK law for incorporated companies they are behaving correctly. That does not mean that they cannot spend their income on jetting all over the world and staying in fancy hotels if they so decide. That does not mean that they need to spend a brass farthing on saving cats and dogs. They are not required to send money to help shelters. They now describe themselves predominantly as lobbyists, and as such scorn surprise by donors that their animal rescue contribution is minimal. As their campaign manager says himself, they can do what they want with your money,  “.. BUT LET THIS BE LOUD AND CLEAR FOLKS. You are not donating so YOU decide where our charity spends the money. You are donating so YOU get credit in the bank to decide which dogs live and which dogs dies.” He should know since the money collected by the Thai chapter of NTDM for saving dogs in S Korea  was sent to him in the Philippines, but more of that later!

Once we had established the criteria of the ‘umbrella’ company, we searched in vain for their registration with the UK Charities Commission. We ignored the various references they make to being registered under a French law for associations. They describe it incorrectly as an EU law. Reports of donations given indicated that NTDM had received in excess of the £5000 ceiling exoneration from being required to register with the Charity Commission.  One would expect that a charity asking for peoples money would lay out their stall  for all to see; that questions either on FB or by email would be answered politely and concisely.  The information here we had to find for ourselves, it should not have to be that difficult.

In normal circumstances we might have excused their prevarication, misleading statements and downright rudeness, believing that they were just a bunch of amateurs finding their feet.  What alarmed us  about their apparent incompetence was that they were being led by a Barrister.  It seemed truly incomprehensible that a UK Barrister would not appreciate the need for complete transparency when heading a charity.  We asked pertinent questions on Facebook which gave them yet another opportunity to respond calmly and clearly. Instead they reacted aggressively. Some of us were branded hate mongers. Pages were trolled and were constantly reported to FB for mentioning their name.

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People were trapped into responding to comments made by fake FB identities only to be reported and put into FB ‘jail’ for days. It became very nasty indeed.

By the end of June 2013 the disillusioned Sidney and Melbourne activist chapters of NTDM withdrew their support.  Some of these members, because they could get no satisfactory discourse with the NTDM founders, expressed their dissatisfaction on FB.

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AUSTRALIAN NTDM SUPPORTERS ARE ANGRY THAT NTDM STILL USING THEIR PHOTOS ON FACEBOOK

While questions were being asked on FB about the charitable status of NTDM, their enthusiastic Australian supporters in Sidney & Melbourne were having problems.  Receipts were not forthcoming, questions were not answered, people who asked questions on the official FB page were being blocked and their comments deleted.  Several of them were holding batches of signed petition, which seemed of no interest at all to NTDM.  It was hard work collecting the signatures, and very disappointing that NTDM were only interested in photos of  supporters protesting on the streets wearing their Logo. One person recently reported to still trying to find a home for 1200 signatures gathered.  The Sidney and Melbourne chapters became increasingly uncomfortable with the posts on the NTDM page.

Although by this time dubious, a Sidney woman, who had made substantial donations, nevertheless decided to help organise the Sidney Australia protest against the Yulin dog eating festival under the NTDM banner. The posters this group of street protesters used, paid for themselves, also promoted Du Yufeng of Bo Ai Animal Protection Centre in China. Du is a well known activist and animal rescuer in China. She and her group were campaigning at the Yulin festival, these grass-roots activists bravely campaigned before and during the festival. The decision by the Sidney chapter to include material promoting Du and her group, when protesting, was not received kindly by the CEO of NTDM. Which may be why NTDM issued a misleading statement concerning Du Yufeng.  The response from ‘Hand in Hand with Asia’s Animal Activists’, refuting the misleading statement after being in direct contact with Du, is shown in this capture. Click on the captures to magnify.

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Towards the end of July 2013 word was received that the Thailand chapter of NTDM had withdrawn their support and were demanding the return of the 2,200 US dollars raised by them for the Thailand EVENT. Two members from the Thai chapter, arranged to fly to S. Korea to join Ms Brown, the film maker/journalist and co-founder of NTDM. On arrival in Seoul, and In spite of waiting all day, they were refused a meeting. They had taken with them filming equipment to record, for the Thai chapter members, Ms Brown’s visit to S.Korea; to show their fellow donors how their donations were being spent on saving dogs from the dog meat trade in S.Korea. They had with them additional funds to help with the rescue of dogs from Moran Market. These funds were finally donated by them to CARE, the dog rescue organisation they visited in Seoul.

Left stranded in Seoul, the representatives from the Thai Chapter risked a visit to the notorious Moran Market, and a less dangerous market, to bring back remarkable footage of their experience.  Money had been donated on a fundraiser to send Ms Brown to film at the Moran market.  The video made by Ms Brown caused a minor uproar on Facebook; it was hugely disappointing, whereas the video brought back by the self funded Thai Chapter representatives is excellent. Doubts were expressed as to the authenticity of the ‘rescue’ of two dogs by Ms Brown. Many believe that Ms Brown visited another, less dangerous market, to buy from a pet dog vendor. The Thai  video seems to support this theory, the reaction to them when they tried to buy a meat dog at the Moran Market was very dramatic. Ms Brown on the other hand spent most of the video choosing two out of four dogs, brought to her in a very clean cage by an affable vendor. She petted and stroked the dogs, just as a potential purchaser of a companion animal does and not as somebody buying  to cook it!

 

Animal ‘Charity’ Dirty Tricks Campaign Part 1


NTDM and their acolytes, to silence their critics, reported them to FB as fake identities. To verify their identities, and to have their accounts reinstated, FB requested private documents as proof of identity. Some of us have refused to do so, since we do not believe that FB should be trusted with such personal information. Others have responded to FB onerous demands but still have not had their accounts reinstated? Animal welfare pages have been stranded since their admin are banned from access. Valuable work on FB for suffering animals has ground to a halt. The people who launched this attack have many false identities but we were all taken down too quickly to protect ourselves from them. We have seen FB comments chortling about their success in removing their critics from FB.
NTDM, bloated by their triumphant FB vendetta,  then decided to launch a Twitter attack on Peter Egan, a much respected public figure in the UK, a tireless animal welfare activist and the ambassador for Animals Asia. Why did they launch an attack on Peter Egan? Because he said that he did not support them. CapturePeterEgan

Peter was impelled to make this statement because NTDM have recently been using an old photo of him on their Facebook page and were heralding him as a supporter.

In a spiteful attempt to smear his reputation NTDM attacked him by erroneously suggesting that he is linked to an individual who had posted a derogatory comment on Facebook.

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Peter Egan has a big following of supporters on Twitter.  They are appalled at this attempt to smear his reputation. People, who up until now had not even known about NTDM, tweeted in protest. Until this much-loved and respected man was attacked in this way by NTDM on Twitter, they had no idea of the depths to which this ‘animal charity’ will sink to cover their traces.  Peter, being the dignified man he is, responded to this vicious attack, He made a simple request.

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When no response was forthcoming, on what had now become a public forum, he asked another simple question. “Who is their CEO and who are their trustees?”

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NTDM refused to answer.

If you would like to read about this on Twitter, please follow the link: https://twitter.com/PeterEgan6

All Singing All Dancing Animal Charity Scam? Chapter 1


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This sounded amazing. We couldn’t wait to join. Companion animal lovers shelled out their money in enthusiastic support. Tshirts, hoodies and kit was ordered and publicity material was downloaded from the ‘Notodogmeat’ website. Supporters cheerfully paid for the cost of printing, laminating etc. and travelling to protest and raise money. Wow they, these illustrious leaders, actually had their feet in the UK House of Commons. They were endorsed by the ‘International Coalition Against the Cat and Dog Meat Trade’, none of us knew who this important organisation was but it certainly read well. They even had their own, ‘pro bono’ lawyer ( or did they say lawyers)  running the show? It was a bit confusing, but never mind, we were later told that they were taking their movie made by a, ‘leading investigative journalist’ to Cannes  on 18th May 2013. Now that was exciting. We imagined celebs & movie stars coming out in support when viewing this movie accepted at the Cannes film festival,. We were told that ‘Notodogmeat’ was founded by a Julia de Cadenet and Michele Brown (the ‘leading investigative journalist’).

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It was very disquieting to find the above information on Google about Julia de Cadenet! We began to wonder if a person who allegedly attempted to steal an intellectual property could be trusted with donors hard earned cash. Ms de Cadenet, we discovered, was not only the co- founder of, ‘Notodogmeat’  she was also their much quoted, ‘award winning pro bono lawyer’.

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Even more intriguing was that Ms de Cadenet  describes herself as a Barrister. Very difficult to believe that a Barrister would risk their professional status by trying to steal an intellectual property? There it is though.. the accusation is still on the web, with no injunction apparently served to remove the extremely damaging accusation. Mentions of Julia as a Barrister have for the most part recently disappeared.  Although she describes herself as such on the UK petition she created. Image

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Strangely when registering, at approximately the same time, as director of, ‘The World Protection For Dogs And Cats In The Meat Trade’ Julia changes not only her profession (& alters her name) but also her birth-date by many years. Will the real Julia de Cadenet please stand up. By the way, the address shown on both these screen shots are of a virtual office and NOT of her private address or place of work.

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Attempted plagiarism, lying on an official government document, the plot thickened. As the figurehead of, ‘Notodogmeat’ this person was gathering more and more FB supporters willing and eager to supply her with money. Misleading posts went up on the official FB page, only to be quickly removed when queried too closely. It became clear that, ‘Notodogmeat’ had more than Ms Brown & Ms de Cadenet as co-founders. Mr David Merrill is a fellow officer in the UK registered company, ‘The World Protection For Dogs And Cats In The Meat Trade’, the so called ‘umbrella’ for Notodogmeat. We breach no privacy in stating that since that information is freely available on the site http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk . Mr John Hughes is their self-acknowledged Campaign Manager, and has been so since ‘Notodogmeat’ hit the ground running in March 2013. The much earlier quoted, ‘International Coalition Against the Cat and Dog Meat Trade’ never did exist.

The above information, as it emerged, became very interesting to a number of us. What really alarmed us was when we began to see snide, disparaging remarks made by, ‘Notodogmeat’ leaders and their acolytes. These remarks were directed at discrediting, Soi Dog Foundation, Animals Asia, HSI and the FaceBook Page, ‘Hand in Hand with Asia’s Animal Activists’; AND by inference any other organisation fighting against dogs & cats for human consumption! Soi Dog Foundation seems to be a pet hate of theirs. This is one of them with a fake FB account pretending to be John Dalley of Soi Dog!

 

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The numbers grew of people recognising that something was very wrong with this animal ‘charity’. Credible animal charities distanced themselves and groups of FB members began to investigate further. Donors began to complain that they had been ignored when requesting receipts. Supporters reported that ‘Notodogmeat’ were indifferent to the hard copy petitions they had so tirelessly collected. Questions were raised about their true charitable status and about where donations were going. That is when the, ‘dirty tricks against critics’ campaign started.

Shockingly two notorious, ‘bad lads’ (and their faithful acolytes) of FB animal charity scams, crawled out of their troll caverns to attack the critics of, ‘Notodogmeat’. Were they always part of, ‘Notodogmeat’? Is  ‘Notodogmeat’ in fact one of their many scams? If not, why on earth would they bother to attack so viciously on behalf of an organisation in which they have no financial interest?

In Chapter 2 we will report further on concerns about ‘Notodogmeat’.